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West Virginia is subject to an absolutely ridiculous pet ban. I am at a loss for what I should say as I’m absolutely shocked at this proposed list. Keep in mind this is the second list proposed with nothing taken off, only things added. 

Say goodbye to your pufferfish, triggerfish, tetras, corydoras, ferrets, sugar gliders, hedgehogs, turtles, tortoises, salamanders, frogs, toads, and so much more if this list doesn’t change.

There are a million and one reasons why this law in insane, including:

  • There is no definition of what is considered “domestic” and what isn’t on the bill
  • They are banning entire orders, not just individual species
  • This has been considered a “living document”, meaning that the list can be changed at any time without public input
  • Pet stores will ultimately have to be shut down, putting people of out jobs and causing them to loose their businesses
  • Yes the bill provides for a permit to keep animals already owned prior to the bill, but there is no way any average pet owner will be able to afford or maintain the permit
  • The permit fees associated with this act will not cover even a small percentage of the millions of dollars that West Virginia will spend to implement these regulation
  • This bill was suppose to be set in place to regulate DANGEROUS animals. This law is literally called the “Dangerous Animals Act.” The lawmakers literally lied to the public about the intentions of the bills, saying that it would only ban:
               ”Constrictor snakes greater than six feet, and venomous snakes; Alligators and caimans; Bears; Big cats; Canids; Primates”

And that doesn’t even cover how it’s going to effect the pet trade in WV. Here are a few quotes from USARK and some people who run Specialty Pets, a local pet store in Nitro, WV.


  • Similar legislation in Ohio led to a $2,900,000 temporary-housing facility for animals that could not be kept by responsible owners.
  • This law will cost West Virginia millions of dollars more to implement than the money raised from permits.
  • A proper fiscal estimate should be presented before hastily passing a law that will cost the state millions of dollars.
  • Money has been spent since the bill was passed in Ohio on June 6, 2012 by the state and legislators who are still making changes to the law.
  • Caging requirements have still not been finalized in Ohio, over 18 months after the law passed.
  • The new law led to millions of dollars invested by Ohio, and West Virginia HB 4393 is very similar.
  • Additional financial hardships will be placed on pet owners by requiring costly permits and may force them to surrender, or even release, their beloved pets
  • The newly-created “Dangerous Wild Animal Board” will review species annually so pet owners must constantly be concerned with their pets being added as a “dangerous wild animal.””

More can be read from USARK here:

West Virginia Reptile Watch:

How will the law affect the aquarium industry in WV?

AQUARIUM TRADE IMPACT of just a small sample of the proposed list for the Dangerous Wild Animal Law in WV and recommendations for clarification.

Order: Characiformes (piranha fish, tiger fish)
All species

  • This Order includes about 2000 fish particularly every tetra fish in the aquarium hobby.
  • This is far to broad and needs to be narrowed down to individual species the board wishes to ban.

Order Siluriformes (candiru catfish, walking catfish)
All species

  • This invariably will include all plecos, algae eaters, cory cats all harmless tropical ornamental and all other cat fish in the aquarium trade
  • This needs to be revised to include the EXACT target species that the board is trying to ban.

Order Tetraodontiformes (trigger fish, file fish, puffer fish)
All species
(These species present health (toxin) and safety risks to humans or have invasive abilities that threaten native fish populations. )

  • Invasion is impossible as trigger fish, file fish and puffer fish are marine animals as WV is no where near a saltwater body there is no threat. The toxins mentioned must be ingested “Certain internal organs, such as liver, and sometimes the skin, contain tetrodotoxin and are highly toxic to most animals when eaten; nevertheless, the meat of some species is considered a delicacy in Japan, Korea, and China when prepared by specially trained chefs who know which part is safe to eat and in what quantity. “

Family Gobiidae (Goby family)
All species
The main article for this category is Gobiidae.

  • The gobies are a family (the Gobiidae) of freshwater and marine ray-finned fish belonging to order Perciformes. This category consists of articles on genera and species in the goby family.
  • Saltwater is invariably and likely unintentional in this proposed ban list due to the fact that the ORDER of certain species were addressed and not the actual animal or species that was intended for the ban.
  • All marine life on this list needs to be excluded as there is NO realistic threat or risk of invasion applicable. Species listed in the proposed ban represent NO threat to the ecology or health of anyone in WV and make up a massive percentage of the pet aquarium trade. 

By including harmless aquatic and ornamental pet fish both fresh water and marine, this law will be forcing ALL pet stores out of business and will remove billions of dollars in tax income and revenue from this state.

Say Good by to your pet shops WV

The pet trade is a massive income for the state and it generates millions of dollars for the state. Pet Shops can not exist without having the ability to sell common safe ornamental fish and invertebrates, the very same animals sold the world over that have caused no damage to anyone or anything. The inclusion of the above fresh water and marine fish is completely unwarranted and is a knee jerk reaction to buzz words such as “poisonous” as in the case of the puffer fish. The puffer fish in and of itself is not “venomous” if it bites you it has no venom , if you however kill and eat its liver it can be poisonous. I have never heard of anyone buying a puffer from a local fish shop and eating it, its absurd to even consider The trigger and puffer much like the tetra are in the wrong “order” that is the real issue. They are trying to ban two or three fish and think that all fish in the order must be as dangerous as the two or three that they really want banned. The list is to far reaching and based up on complete speculation and worst case scenarios, it needs to be revised with a more balanced approach or West Virginia will lose every pet shop , and pet retailer including Walmart and all secondary outlets for such animals. This will cause a severe impact on the state economy the likes of which no one can truly imagine.”


I know there isn’t much that can be done from a reblog on a website, but I wan’t everyone to know what is happening here and what can happen in every state if the pet community underestimates pet ban laws, the HSUS, PETA, and other “animal rights” organizations that pay lawmakers to ban animals.

Amazing can’t keep a tetra but your Glock’s a ok!

Jesus this is ridiculous and would set a terrible precedent. All frogs, toads, salamanders? Quaker Parakeets (SERIOUSLY?!) ALL weaver finches? Turtles, sugar gliders, hedgehogs, rabbits, rodents in general, HORSES?!

Literally the only things on this list that make sense are the crocodiles/alligators/caimans, some of the more invasive inverts (snails & zebra/quagga mussels,) and the larger species on the mammals list that have no history or business being pets.


There’s no way this isn’t an elaborate troll


That is a better link to the list and has a few clarifications, like allowing non-hybrid domestic dogs and cats, the horses/ponies, and domesticated mice/rats/cavies/hamsters, though it still bans things like ferrets, and well, tons of things that are responsibly kept as pets.

Edit again: Here is where you can send comments people!


Anonymous asked:

Hello! I have a fish-related question and I wanted to ask somebody who understands a lot about proper fish care: so, my mother has recently agreed to let me get a small (10 gallon) fish tank, and I've done research and decided to stock it with male guppies and ghost shrimp. My question is, how many of each should I get without overstocking such a small tank? Thank you!


I’ve never owned either but I personally wouldn’t do more than four of each. That’s just my take on it. Fish community, what do you think?


Its been a long time since I owned guppies (I was like, ten,) but I think there’s a chance of the males stressing each other out if you only have males. But like, nowhere near as aggressive as betta so it can work, but you’d have to watch closely and weed out bullies if you do get one.

I’d plug your tank statistics into aqadvisor. Just to test, I put in for a 10 gallon tank with a 20 gph filter, and it showed 7 guppies as about the max before you have to add more filtration.

Ghost shrimp, on the other hand (with that size & filtration) it says that 65 could be safely stocked - though I believe ghost shrimp need less current. Regardless, they don’t have a large bioload.

I’d go play around with yourself until you find a setup your satisfied with!




Sometimes I have to surpress the urge to scream at people for tagging their crackers as ‘goldfish’ and not ‘goldfish crackers’

And then there’s the people who do both. Like seriously people, ‘goldfish crackers’ wasn’t going to get your amazing insight about munching on bland snack foods across?

woah there easy on the goldfish cracker hate I just finished off a 30 oz box of them how dareyou call them “bland”

I find this offensive to the goldfish pretzels that are not crackers and don’t want to be addressed as such. They think they are quite delicious

Oh gosh now I’m laughing my ass off.

(Okay maybe not bland. My anger made me say terrible things!)


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so like, if you get those goldfish that need a 100 gal (feeder fish, common goldfish, koi, comets, whatever), could you get a 10 gal for them as babies and then upgrade them when they get bigger and bigger until they’re ready to be put into a pond? 

i’m not thinking about getting goldfish but i am curious if this is right or you really just have to put them in a pond

Theoretically *yes* but it can become cost prohibitive, unless you’re really planning on investing a lot of time and energy into multiple tank setups.

For example, my quarantine tank (really, its just a rubbermaid tub with a filter) that I use for new goldfish is only about ten gallons, but all of my goldfish have been pretty small when I got them, and since its a quarantine tank I’m closely monitoring the status of the tank anyway. But I couldn’t leave them in there for a long time.

Really 100 gallons for a single fish (bar like, koi,) is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but you’re still looking about double the space of a fancy. So.. probably 40 minimum, which is still really impractical if you want to keep multiple fish indoors (because shit that adds up fast, four fish would be well over a hundred gallons.)

Koi really do probably need that much - they can be tank busters (getting a couple *feet* long) and keeping them in anything but a pond is just really not advisable.

I agree it would not be cost effective at all. However you must first realize that koi and goldfish are two separate species of fish and do have different needs. Koi need around 1000gal per fish as adults, they get very very large, much larger than any goldfish will. I’d say a single tail as big as they get needs around 40gal as a minimum tank size (as in the footprint of space). If you’re housing multiple in a large tank or pond stocking is a bit more lenient because as long as the fish have appropriate space stocking then is determined by waste output, which directly correlates to weight.

After considering the overall space a fish needs weight should always be what determines how ‘stocked’ you are. Considering a fancy of the same total length (total length being the length of the fish from snout to the longer lobe of the caudal fin) can weigh 2-3 times more than a singe tailed variety of the same total length stocking for fancies should actually be equal to, if not greater than what is given to single tails. Fancies are also less maneuverable than single tailed varieties and prefer a wider tank which will make turning around easier as they grow larger.If you want to get into goldfish I would recommend starting with a 40 gallon and stocking it with two fancy goldfish. That will most likely house those two fish comfortably for their entire lives. Here are a few resources from my fish blog if you’re serious about goldfish:

Yeah I really could have gone more into koi details I suppose; they’re basically just really pretty carp, and the size shows it.

Look at the SIZE of these things!

One of these days, I’m going to catch a dollar/gallon tank sale somewhere and pick up a 20 or 30 gallon tank and set it up as a sulawesi tank.

And then populate it with rabbit snails. And maybe some small schooling sulawesi fish - though I get the feeling that those will be very hard to find and I may just have to go with some sort of small tetra that’s okay with a higher PH. Or maybe killifish

File this under things I want to do that won’t happen for a while. But seriously, I love rabbit snails and I need a tank full of them.

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